A Conversation with Katie Linendoll
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A Conversation with Katie Linendoll

August 12, 2019


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you, thank you. [upbeat electronic music] – She’s an Emmy
award-winning personality; she’s flown on a jet pack; you can see her on the Today
Show, talking technology; and, we’re honored to
have her here in Memphis for A Conversation
with Katie Linendoll. So, let’s start, you got
involved in technology at an early age,
learning to code. So, where did you begin
this journey of technology? – Yes, well it’s been
a pleasure being here, and the hospitality,
and just the kindness, has been so great,
so thank you all. And I look forward to, already,
the next time I come back. Technology, for me,
is a huge passion. I started when I was
about 12, 13 years old, coding, as you noted, and
that was at a time where, it was during that like, AOL
boom had started happening when I was about 16,
17, 18, so it was very, still an early time, with the excitement of technology. So I was a little
ahead of the curve. But, I always laugh,
as you’ve heard me say, because I have an
eight-year-old niece that’s into coding, and
robotics, and engineering now. And I feel like saying, I got
involved when I was 12, but used to be cool, that used to
be like way ahead of its time. Now, I’m like,
(groans) you know, three and
four-year-olds doing code, and robotics, and engineering. It’s an interesting, we’re getting so far, so fast. – Well, and already, the
eight-year-old is hacking into your computer, and
you’re like, that’s awesome. – She did. She actually popped
right into my computer, figured out my password,
and I was so proud. Most people would be mad,
and I was like, slow clap. – And so, you were
earning certificates before you even
graduated high school. Talk about the journey
of making this, really, a full-time profession, in
the sense of the education, and then we’ll dive into ESPN.
– Yes. So, it’s interesting to have
gotten to where I am now, I never thought I would
have a world in, my passion for tech, and gadgets,
and electronics, would parlay into the TV world. I had my networking certs,
as you noted, in high school, and then I got my degree
in information technology new media, from the Rochester
Institute of Technology, where I went to
school, and then I went right to ESPN, and
worked behind the scenes. But, my degree was always
intact, I was always heavily involved in both
hardware and software. And, to think that it
would come and be into, A, the consumers, and
everyday people would care so much about technology,
and it was so fascinating to talk about like, being in
this world that we live in now, where everybody wants the
latest and greatest in tech, and like, what I do is so cool. Like, I never foresaw that. But, it’s amazing to actually
have this true expertise, and to bring it into, I call
it the TV part of what I do, and having the blessing
to work on so many great national outlets, that is
really the icing on the cake. Like, for me, I’m still
that introverted IT person that loves to do the research. And then, it’s the real
bonus to be able to go on TV, and share that with millions
of individuals watching. – So, let’s start with ESPN,
then we’ll carry our way through, on the fun gadgets,
’cause you do get to play with gadgets all day, every day. But, talk about ESPN,
’cause that’s a funny story on just getting into ESPN,
and having to take a test. What was that like? – I’ve always been a huge
sports fan, my whole life, my whole family is. I feel like you’re either
born, like, an athlete, a sports fan, and
really into your teams, or it’s just something
you’re passionate about. – And, Boston, right?
– Well, I actually grew up in Erie, Pennsylvania,
a very small town. And then, my family all
lives in Boston now. So, go Celtics. It was so fun to be able
to, right out of school, when I was actually in Rochester
Institute of Technology, they had a program, it was
the first program ever done by ESPN, where they
came into universities, and it was called Sports Zone,
and it was airing on ESPN 2. And I was like, oh my
gosh, what an opportunity. There’s not many
females at this school, and not a lot of
girls in technology. I’m gonna be a
host for this show. So there I was at
18, 19 years old, and my first foray into
television was on ESPN 2, hosting the show,
which eventually led me to the obsession of
production, and the fascination with editing and technology,
and working behind the scenes. And then, to your
point, I went and worked in Bristol, Connecticut,
at SportsCenter, ESPN headquarters, and
worked on SportsCenter, and Outside the
Lines, NBA Fast Break. I started as a production
assistant, worked my way up, and one of the favorite
stories is, I literally took a sports test, at
that time, to get my job, where it was
really, really hard. But, I got it. So, I feel very grateful
to have worked my way up from, I mean, I started having
freelance jobs when I was like 12 years old. I mean, we were
getting after it. But, it built so much character
to be able to understand every different
facet of production, and being able to
manage cameramen, and understand how to edit. So, I can really be in
the place that I am now, and be able to understand
all those roles, and be able to speak
to all those roles, and do them too, still. I think we’re entering this
really interesting time period with media, where you have
to be able to do it all. So, I’m grateful to
have worked my way up, and it really builds
a lot of my character. – Alright, so from ESPN,
what was the next step? – An interesting question,
because actually, I was working so much behind
the scenes, and learning from the pros, and I gotta
tell you, a big mentor in my life, was Stuart Scott. I learned so much from him,
just seeing how he works on camera, on and offline. What an amazing
character, and a big loss. He was a great
guy to learn from. But, I wasn’t there, and I
wasn’t ready for that next progression into,
you know, television. I had to work my way up. So, from ESPN, believe it
or not, my first TV gig was actually working at
the Home Shopping Network, where I sold $20 million
in gadgets and electronics, which, it’s crazy to
hear, and to think back into such, this point
in my career where, you’d have to be able
to talk about anything from a GPS to a Nintendo,
at that time it was the DS, a little mini gaming console,
portable gaming console, anywhere from, you know, a
minute to an hour, non-stop. So, no script, no prompter,
this is all in your head. You better be prepared,
you better have an outline, but again, another
amazing experience, to be able to experience, and work my way through.
– Absolutely. What about working, ’cause
not only technology, but ESPN, now Home Shopping Network’s
a little bit different, but very male-dominated fields. So, how was that, I mean,
obviously, having to know the starting lineup, and
taking test to get into ESPN, but what was it like being,
especially a young female, working in a traditionally
very male-dominated industry? – Yeah, and I find
that still today, in the world of technology,
it’s still, you know, predominately male
dominated, but I’ve always enjoyed my place in
that kind of forum. I feel like, I always tell
women, and people that I mentor, it’s taking advantage of it. Be proud of the knowledge
and the expertise that you stand behind, and
whether you’re female or male, or no matter what label
people wanna put on you, if you have the confidence,
and you have the expertise, it doesn’t matter. So, I really never
thought too much about it, but more so like,
it was kind of cool to be the only girl in
all my classes, you know? I would take advantage of it. So, it makes me
feel unique, and I kind of look
at it from a different, positive point of view. – So, you won the Emmy at
a young age, 22, right? – Yes, yes.
– So, how did that come about? – I actually won my
Emmy for, it was titled as for associate
producer on SportsCenter. So, my Emmy is really
for behind the scenes, which I’m very proud
of, because again, I think, you know,
having that experience to understand
production, and to manage so many different roles, and
work on so many different big shows, from again,
like SportsCenter, and the Outside the Lines,
it was fascinating. But, also too,
you’re busting butt. Like, it’s a hard role to be
in, and what was interesting at that time period,
when I was at ESPN, you went through a
six-month trial period. So, at six months,
you were voted on, whether they were
gonna keep you or not. So, it’s, it was very stressful. – I’m sensing a lot of pressure
all the way throughout; to get in, to stay in.
– I feel like that’s a trend of my life, is just like,
I love a lot of pressure. I love being, like, a challenge, both mentally and physically. And, I continue to put
that pressure on myself, every single day. – So, you’ve done
some amazing things. I mentioned the jet pack, but
you’ve gotten to experience really cool things. Give us maybe one or two
that stand out as just fun, amazing experiences that
you’ve had a chance to enjoy. – Oh, my goodness,
there’s so many. You know, diving is a
big part of what I do, and working underwater,
and shooting a lot of stuff underwater, is an
environment that I have just become captivated by. My first foray into
experiencing scuba diving, and really, this other world
that exists under the ocean, I was like, I’m not a
very emotional person, but when I was underwater
for the first time, and just seeing everything
in, kind of, their ecosystem, and how, like,
it’s another world, and how much little we
have discovered from it. I really went into covering
a lot of stories underwater. And, briefly, I can say
like, some of my favorites, I was underwater
with NASA astronauts, where they’re, twice a
year, they actually work on this program, and it
actually simulates gravity, from, at about one-eighth. So, they go underwater,
because that’s as close as you can get to really
having the simulation of being in space. So, imagine being
underwater, and there’s like, sharks, a stingray, all this
beautiful underwater life, and then there’s like
astronauts, training. And they live for six
to 18 days, underwater. So, it’s these stories
that you report on, and also, at the same time,
I was working with NASA on this particular story, and
you have to understand things at a very convoluted level,
but then also bring them down to, you know, you gotta
keep up, and process it, but bring it down where
it’s like, exciting, and people can understand it, no matter if they’re
tech savvy or not. So, I think, you know, the
underwater stories, to me, is always going
to be fascinating, something I’m hunting down. – And one of the ones, I know
that you became fascinated with, but, the lion fish. There’s a whole
environmental piece to this, in terms of, not only
raising awareness, but using technology,
obviously as a piece of it, but raising awareness
for the devastation that these lion
fish are causing. – I became so obsessed
with the lion fish story, and I still am, and I’m very
passionate about my pieces. I don’t just go and do a
piece, and it’s like, next. I’m like, I’m all
in, and sometimes, in an instance where I
discovered that this lion fish, and a lot of people
haven’t heard of it, it is a species of
fish that is gorgeous. It has 18 venomous spines, it’s
always in a lot of cartoons because it’s a beautiful fish. It’s native to the
Pacific Ocean, and supposedly, the
hypothesis is that, individual, a pet
shop owner in Florida had thrown four to six
lion fish in the water, in the Atlantic
Ocean, in the 80s. Well, what happened was, about
30 to 40,000 eggs they lay, every four to five days,
which equals lots of babies. Like, I don’t know if I’m
gonna have one baby one day, lots of babies happening
by the lion fish. Well, the crazy part about
that is they have no predators. So, I discovered this
story, in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, that
here, all these scientists are freaking out, because
there’s this fish, this venomous species,
and it has no predators, and it’s eating all these fish, and the fish don’t know
to stay away from it. Their brains don’t innately
know, hey, this is a bad guy I should stay away from.
– Right, they do in the Pacific, but
not the Atlantic. – Right. So, it became a fascinating
story, that I lived on and off of, covering
in Bermuda for about, it took me months to
shoot it on the island. And, specifically, I
found it there, because I was on a random trip,
and I just said, here, these locals are trying
to beat this problem that nobody knows about,
but yet it’s permeated, not only through the
Caribbean and South America, but all the way up
into the Northeast. – And it’s also destroying
the reefs, and there’s a whole environmental devastation.
– Some scientists call it, it could be the biggest problem
the Atlantic Ocean ever faces. And to think that this
is happening right now, in our time, because of our
irresponsibility, it’s crazy. The neatest part about
it, and I say the neatest, but if you take all
those fish, right now, if you take any lion fish in
the Atlantic Ocean, the DNA that is found from it, is from
those four to six lion fish that were let go, in the 80s. So, to talk about the
impact of one false move, I think is something that’s
been very fascinating to cover, and to also, the responsibility
I have, as a journalist, to be able to share that
story, and get people aware of what’s happening, and what
they can do, and covering it also, hey, here’s a negative,
but how do we make it a positive, and how do we now– – And they’re using
technology to battle too. – They’re so using
technology to battle, and, as of recently, a big company
that we know in the technology world, iRobot, they’ve
actually been working on underwater robots, to actually
mass capture the lion fish, ’cause the only way to
capture a lion fish now is to actually spear fish it,
which is actually pretty hard. And you’re only taking
out one at a time, and you can only stay
underwater for so long. So, it’s just mind-blowing,
the stories that you, you know, you come across in your life,
and that was challenging for me, physically. I had to get a higher
dive certifications, and just, I was in a lot
of storms, in the waters, in the middle of the
Bermuda Triangle. And, learning a lot about fish
that I did not know about, and the ocean, and
again, what small move we could make, could be
such a destructive choice. – So, talk about, on your end, you get about seven
gadgets, we’ll say, a day, that you get to try,
and you’re testing ’em out, and you’re immersing
yourself in. You know, back to your
point of viewing it as a responsibility, when you go
on shows like the Today Show, you have a massive
audience of millions, and so, you always say
it’s a responsibility to be a good steward
of the opportunity. But, describe what it’s like
to have seven gadgets a day, and how do you manage all that? – It’s such an awesome
problem to have. I have, you know, constantly
testing, you know, upwards of 10 gadgets a day. FedEx and UPS are not a fan
of me until holiday season, and the bonuses come around. But, it’s so cool to
be able to be hands-on, because I see this, every
day for me is so different, whether I can be taking
on a passionate story, or a lot of technology
and gadget round-ups. So, I’ll go on somewhere
like the Today Show, and have five to nine
gadgets in one segment, and people always say,
oh, did you just show up with a backpack
and a few gadgets? I’m like if you knew
how much testing I go, and how many gadgets
I pitch to the team before they pick and choose
the ones that they like. It’s a lot of work,
but it’s super exciting to be on the forefront, and
really, in my space, and having access to gadgets
before they don’t come out, and also finding the ma
and pa gadgets of like, oh my gosh, we can’t believe
you’re actually interested in testing them. Those are moments,
I’m like, yes! When you find a good one
that you can put on air, that people are excited by. But, bringing it full-circle,
you bet that I’m testing for a while, and
putting stuff on air that I truly care about,
because millions of people are watching it, and a lot
of times, things sell out, and that’s on me. If they don’t like the product,
or the product isn’t great, come on now. So, I have a responsibility. – I know that one you do like
is called Sleep Shepherd. – Yes.
– Describe Sleep Shepherd. – Sleep Shepherd,
this is really cool. I’ve become obsessed
with the world of sleep, over the last year and a half, really due to this
company, Mind Rocket, that created the Sleep Shepherd. It is a sleep gadget
that’s worn like a little, comfortable headband, and inside there, behind
the scenes, it’s created by MIT doctors and
scientists, and specifically, an individual, Dr. Michael
Larson, who, his daughter was having chronic sleep issues, like 50 to 70 million Americans. And, they were putting
on her, on so many drugs, that she ended up in the ER. And, he was like, forget it; I’m taking matters
into my own hands. I am gonna create a
device, and here he is now, on version 2.0, with this
Sleep Shepherd gadget that raised a million
dollars on Kickstarter. And, I became so blown
away, and fascinated by the gadget, I was like,
this team is incredible. They’re out of Colorado,
and what they do and what they’re so
passionate about, in helping people’s lives, and
sleep, it’s just been, it’s been unreal,
this last year, watching it just explode,
in terms of retail. What I’ve been able to do
is, again, lend a microphone, and be able to take it on
national segments, and say this is a company that
I’m passionate about, that I’m working with,
and I think also, too, to get people to perk up. We hear a lot about
wearable fitness, and wearable technologies,
whether it’s smart watches, or whether it’s Fitbits, and it’s a billion-dollar industry. But I think sleep is
that next little nugget that’s gonna be added to that. It’s projected to be a multi
billion-dollar industry, in just, the next few years. I think it’s a component
that’s been missing, that people are gonna
be really receptive to. It’s really important
to get good sleep, and I don’t think there’s
been a huge spotlight on that over the years. So, in working with this
company, and just doing so well in terms of being able
to share it nationally, and also at retail. Like, it’s a fun
experience, but also, it’s helping people. And like, that’s why, how could
you not be excited by that? – So, you talk, you know,
that’s kind of the trend, is sleep, and wearables. Another one, obviously,
you’re seeing right now, is the self-driving cars
and technology being used in aviation, in automobiles. Where do you stand on that? ‘Cause obviously, there’s
a lot of positives. You can be working while
the car drives you. But, there’s also
a control issue. – Right. I got to experience
one of the coolest autonomous vehicles, at the
Consumer Electronics Show, which happens every year
in Vegas, in January. It’s kind of the big tech
companies always showcase what they have coming out
for the next few years. And with these conversations
of self-driving cars, and people being worried, and
robots, and AI taking over, I had to say, I see the positive
in it, in different realms. And I like when there’s,
the specific vehicle that I was, really
that had me perk up, at the Consumer
Electronics Show, was one that specifically
allowed for autonomous, semi-autonomous, or
you’re fully in control. And what was really
neat about it, to share some of the features,
was, for example, I’m somebody that, once I
start driving, 10 minutes, 15 minutes in, I’m like,
oh this is real nice. Like, not a good time
to be on the road, and I do not drive a lot
because of that reason; I get sleepy. Here, a feature
inside that car is, it actually has your biometrics. So it can tell when
you’re falling asleep. So what the car actually
does, it has a little, like, kind of Siri device,
if you will, in there, that’s a robot that you’re
always talking with, and it’s like, starts
telling you stories if it tells that
you’re getting sleepy. If that doesn’t work, it starts
blowing wind in your face. If that doesn’t
work, it takes over. So, I think in instances
where, oh my goodness, how many accidents
happen on the road from, where they could be stopped? Those are areas I
see positive impact, in terms of the world of,
like, self-driving cars. – I know that another big
one is virtual reality, there’s augmented reality. But you work a lot
in virtual reality, and we’ll kind of transition
into one of your real passions as well, but talk about
virtual reality as a trend, and then we’ll
dive into Batcole. – I think we always
see these trends in, the world of tech obviously,
and VR right now is just huge. And I have worries that, it’s
only until you experience a true VR headset, that
you realize how immersive being inside this
other world, really is. And for me, that experience
was many, many years ago. I actually got to go to
the birthplace of where VR was created, and they
put me inside this unit, and I had a VR headset. It was kind of more
of a 4D experience, ’cause I was in a cool
chair too, and it was like moving around, but what
was awesome about it was, I was like, training
on this Navy ship. And, the first time I’m
here, experiencing this VR, I forgot about everything
that was happening out here. And I literally had a
whole TV crew filming me, and I forgot about,
that that was happening. And, I was into this world. And for me, it was like,
yes, could this be very cool in gaming, or be front
row at a concert, but I also saw physical
therapy, dentists, any time, we’ll talk
about pediatric cancer, of where I ended up bringing VR. What kind of applications
can be used virtual reality? Real estate, that people
can save so much time, or be in another,
transported really, into another world, and kind of put
everything away for a second. So that was a really
impactful moment that I had. The remainder of that day,
after I first experienced VR, I was like, whoa,
this is intense. You really have to
have the hardware and see a true virtual
reality experience. I use examples in the past,
I’ve been diving with whales, underwater, with VR;
I’ve seen this amazing Cirque du Soleil show, where
all the actors come up to you, and you know, your heart’s
racing because you feel like these like, crazy circus
people are all in your space. The sky’s the limit, in terms
of what you can achieve. I actually was at an event
one time, where they were doing a VR, there
was a line of people testing if they would jump off
of this cliff or not, in VR. And it was 50/50,
because it was so real that they were like,
“Ahh!” and I’m not sure if I’m
gonna jump, or I’m not, I am. So, it’s a really
intense experience when you first
get your hands on. And, from there on out, I think, if consumers take
to it, which I hope, I hope it’s not another 3D TV, I think it could be
really incredible. – Well, I think even before,
you know, when you talk about kind of going into the
pediatric cancer side, is, there’s technology
for technology’s sake, but then there’s technology
for the greater good, right? For social good, and I think
when you create something in a vacuum, but then all
of a sudden you realize, wait a second, you know,
you’ve got these applications, which, video games,
this and that, but then you look at all
these other huge opportunities over here, to help people. That’s a whole different
ballgame you’re playing now. – Absolutely, and you
know, and if it takes it, I tell people too, you
can show the dollars too, in those sections. When we talk about real estate,
or we talk about healthcare, or we talk about, the other
day I was using a VR headset while I had a four and a
half hour dentist appointment that I didn’t know was gonna
be four and a half hours. These are really
applications of where, yes you can be
helping people too, but if it’s gonna take
incentive for people to perk up and know that there is a
huge market for it, so be it. – So, talk about Batcole,
this is one that, obviously, it will wind up talking
about virtual reality, but talk about Batcole. – Yes, so one thing I’m
very passionate about, I worked as a volunteer
for six years, in pediatric cancer,
and very intimately, I’ve become a big sister
to five individuals that have been, I’ve
been very close with. And unfortunately, when
you work in a space that is so intense,
like pediatric cancer, I’ve watched many of them,
unfortunately, pass away. And, one of my little
BFF’s, Cole Winnefeld, it’s bittersweet, because
the last visit I got to have with him, we were at Star
Wars Weekend in Disney World. And, he unfortunately
passed away after a six-year battle
with pediatric cancer. And, we now have the
Batcole foundation, which raises money
for clinical trials. I educate people
that clinical trials, when it comes to pediatric
cancer, in my experience, I’ve watched so many
families, first-hand, and been the big sister, having these clinical trials,
and maybe these one-offs that may or may not be a home
run, they’re very important, and they kept him alive
for six healthy years. You know, not best of the
best, but really good shape. So, we’re educating people
on clinical trials, but also, in terms of VR, what we’re
doing is, when I first had that personal VR
experience, I knew that this was something that
the kids could be able to, while they’re waiting
for chemo and radiation, and they have those long
days in the hospital, there’s nothing to do. Like, what worse environment
could you come up with, for a child to be in? And there’s this
downtime, and now, with the help of the
Winnefeld family, who we honor in
Cole’s remembrance, we have been installing
virtual reality headsets into the hospital. And it took a matter
of trust, to be able to get into the hospital, because there is no
hidden agenda. This is all something that
we are doing first-hand, and you know, we’re spending
money out-of-pocket, we just want these
kids to be experiencing a different place, at that time. But it is awesome to be able
to get the honest feedback, from kids of all ages, to
say this is really cool. Not only am I like, maybe
I’m waiting for chemo, and it’s a really bad day,
but I’m gonna go inside VR and be able to choose,
hey, I wanna be on a beach; hey, I wanna be on a skateboard; hey, I wanna be skiing down
this cliff, and look down, and it looks like
it’s my point of view. Take out of that reality,
and that, to me, is like, I see this as the future. I even recently had an
experience, where I was at the dentist, which is
such at a lower end example, but it was so long. It was, I was saying, it was
hours, and I was watching YouTube videos the
whole time, on a VR, and it looked like there
was a movie theater right in front of my
face; that’s distracting. They said I was like
the best patient ever. So I’m like, I get to talk
to the kids about that. – (Jeremy)
I didn’t even hear you working on my teeth. – Yeah, I didn’t even know it. Sometimes I’d hear him be like
can you move a little to the, and I was like,
great, this is easy. Everybody should have that
luxury, and how lucky we are. – So what would you
tell, because obviously, everything we’re talking
about is not only technology, but it’s technology for good. What would you tell
businesses, entrepreneurs, people that say you know, I
want to use technology for good? What’s maybe one or two tips? – I’d say that everybody
has a skill set, that, we all have a job, right? God willing. And, with our role, I think
sometimes we under-value how much power we
have as an individual. I never would have thought
my world of technology would, doctors would be
asking me, oh my goodness, this kid’s getting
up, he’s eating, he’s walking around, because
he has a Nintendo Switch. Like, that’s so cool,
and he’s so excited. It’s not hard, but
I never, you realize that you have, each
of us has a skill set that could help, maybe at
a direct or indirect way, and I even think about
like, when we talk about pediatric cancer, some
of these families that, I’m specifically alluding
to the hospital in New York, where they all come from
around the world too. They need help
with their laundry. They need help running errands. They need help picking stuff up. What can we all do,
as an individual, not even tech savvy or not. I encourage people to look
inside their own skill set, and if it’s once a
year, once a week, just even thinking about
doing the right thing, we’ve made progress. – Kind of on the side
of Sleep Shepherd, but, talk about balance. I think it’s important
because, you can become so consumed with technology, and you see it especially
now with everybody, even a family, sitting
there at the dinner table, all on their cell phones. But, where does
balance play into this? – Balance is a huge
word right now. I’m actually, something
I’m working on myself, and I feel like the luxury I
had growing up was having that one time period, of
my childhood was, there wasn’t that technology. So, to remember what it’s
like to be inside your own imagination, and to really
have to think things through, and not always be able to,
I’m gonna pick up my phone. Like, we’re always,
constantly hyper-connected and tethered, and I
think that’s phenomenal. I think all the education,
all the resources are inside one
little, tiny device; it’s an amazing place to go. But I also think that there is
this connection with nature, and with the world, and with, if you are spiritual, I
think we all need to take a few minutes a day, at the
minimum, and kind of just sit with ourselves, in our
own mind, without a device, and it’s, again, something
I’m working on too. I get some of my best
ideas, and it’s just walking across the
street without my phone. And if that freaks you out,
put it on airplane mode for like five minutes;
you’ve still got the phone. Like, it’s a really
interesting time that we’re creeping up on,
and I also get worried, like, you know, this is my
first time being an aunt. I have an eight, a five,
and a three-year-old, two nieces and a
nephew, and I’m watching how they’re just growing up
differently, and digitally. And I’m encouraging
the STEM education. I want them to be
ahead of the curve in science, tech, engineering
and math, and the arts. But at the same
time, I so admire watching parents, and my
sister, both my sisters, just encourage outside
play, and getting hands on, and the digital
and the physical. – Well, this is a conversation
we could have for hours, and still not scratch
the surface, especially on all the latest
and greatest gadgets, but greatly appreciate
you being here in Memphis; greatly appreciate
you sharing your story and sharing the latest in
tech, and how we can use it for social good.
– Thank you. I hope to be back in
Memphis again soon. – Thank you for joining us for A Conversation
With Katie Linendoll. [upbeat electronic music] [guitar chord]

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