At Issue  #2601 “Vintage Aircraft”
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At Issue #2601 “Vintage Aircraft”

September 2, 2019


>>>WELCOME TO “AT ISSUE.
” THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING ” THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING
US. US.
MY NAME IS H. WAYNE WILSON. MY NAME IS H. WAYNE WILSON.
FOR THE NEXT HALF HOUR, WE WILL FOR THE NEXT HALF HOUR, WE WILL
BE TALKING ABOUT WAR BIRDS, BE TALKING ABOUT WAR BIRDS,
AIRPLANES THAT COME FROM THE WAR AIRPLANES THAT COME FROM THE WAR
ERA, PRIMARILY WORLD WAR II. ERA, PRIMARILY WORLD WAR II.
WHY WILL WE TALK ABOUT THAT WHY WILL WE TALK ABOUT THAT
TOPIC? TOPIC?
BECAUSE WE WANT TO FIND OUT WHO BECAUSE WE WANT TO FIND OUT WHO
IS GOING TO PRESERVE THAT IS GOING TO PRESERVE THAT
HISTORY INTO THE FUTURE. HISTORY INTO THE FUTURE.
WE WILL BE TALKING WITH ONE WE WILL BE TALKING WITH ONE
INDIVIDUAL ABOUT THAT WHO FLIES INDIVIDUAL ABOUT THAT WHO FLIES
THIS AIRPLANE. THIS AIRPLANE.
IT THIS IS A TBM AVENGER, IT THIS IS A TBM AVENGER,
LANDING AT THE GALESBURG AIRPORT LANDING AT THE GALESBURG AIRPORT
AT THE TIME. AT THE TIME.
HERE IT IS FLYING UP IN PERU AT HERE IT IS FLYING UP IN PERU AT
THE PERU AIRPORT WHERE IT IS THE PERU AIRPORT WHERE IT IS
HOUSED. HOUSED.
IT IS A WORLD WAR II AIRCRAFT IT IS A WORLD WAR II AIRCRAFT
THAT WE HAVE USED IN THE PACIFIC THAT WE HAVE USED IN THE PACIFIC
THEATER. THEATER.
IT WAS USED AFTER WORLD WAR II IT WAS USED AFTER WORLD WAR II
AS WELL. AS WELL.
WE ALSO WILL BE TALKING ABOUT, WE ALSO WILL BE TALKING ABOUT,
YES, THAT IS A STEERMAN AT THE YES, THAT IS A STEERMAN AT THE
GALESBURG AIRPORT FOR THE GALESBURG AIRPORT FOR THE
NATIONAL FLY IN, OPEN COCKPIT NATIONAL FLY IN, OPEN COCKPIT
FLYING. FLYING.
WE WILL BE TALKING TO A YOUNG WE WILL BE TALKING TO A YOUNG
MAN WHO RESTORES THOSE AIRCRAFT. MAN WHO RESTORES THOSE AIRCRAFT.
VERY FEW YOUNG PEOPLE ARE DOING VERY FEW YOUNG PEOPLE ARE DOING
SO, SOLE WE WILL BE TALKING SO, SOLE WE WILL BE TALKING
ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE STEERMAN ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE STEERMAN
AND OTHER WAR BIRDS. AND OTHER WAR BIRDS.
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US FOR THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US FOR
THIS UNIQUE LOOK AT AIRPLANES, THIS UNIQUE LOOK AT AIRPLANES,
ESPECIALLY AIRPLANES THAT ARE IN ESPECIALLY AIRPLANES THAT ARE IN
CENTRAL ILLINOIS. CENTRAL ILLINOIS.
TO DO THAT, I AM WELCOMING BRAD TO DO THAT, I AM WELCOMING BRAD
DECKERT. DECKERT.
BRAD, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. BRAD, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
THANKS FOR HAVING ME. THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
>>BRAD IS THE OWNER AND THE>>BRAD IS THE OWNER AND THE
PILOT FOR THE AVENGER THAT YOU PILOT FOR THE AVENGER THAT YOU
SAW. SAW.
IT IS A TBM AVENGER. IT IS A TBM AVENGER.
WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A
MOMENT. MOMENT.
FIRST, WE WANT TO TALK A LITTLE FIRST, WE WANT TO TALK A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT THE BACKGROUND OF BIT ABOUT THE BACKGROUND OF
THESE AIRPLANES. THESE AIRPLANES.
THE AVENGER WAS BUILT BY THE AVENGER WAS BUILT BY
GRUMMAN, AND GENERAL MOTORS. GRUMMAN, AND GENERAL MOTORS.
YOU HAVE A GENERAL MOTORS YOU HAVE A GENERAL MOTORS
AIRPLANE? AIRPLANE?
>>THAT IS CORRECT.>>THAT IS CORRECT.
ABOUT THE FIRST THOUSAND OF TEN ABOUT THE FIRST THOUSAND OF TEN
THOUSAND WERE BUILT BY GRUMMAN, THOUSAND WERE BUILT BY GRUMMAN,
AND THEN GENERAL MOTORS TOOK AND THEN GENERAL MOTORS TOOK
OVER THE PRODUCTION BECAUSE OVER THE PRODUCTION BECAUSE
GRUMMAN COULDN’T KEEP UP WITH GRUMMAN COULDN’T KEEP UP WITH
EVERYTHING THEY WERE BUILDING. EVERYTHING THEY WERE BUILDING.
>>AND THE INDICATION THAT IT IS>>AND THE INDICATION THAT IT IS
A GM MANUFACTURED AIRPLANE IS A GM MANUFACTURED AIRPLANE IS
WHAT? WHAT?
>>IS THE “M” AT THE END, TBM,>>IS THE “M” AT THE END, TBM,
TORPEDO BOMBER, M IS IT WAS TORPEDO BOMBER, M IS IT WAS
BUILT BY GM. BUILT BY GM.
>>A GRUMMAN, DESIGNATED BY WHAT.>>A GRUMMAN, DESIGNATED BY WHAT.
>>F.>>F.
>>IT WAS TORPEDO LAUNCHED?>>IT WAS TORPEDO LAUNCHED?
>>THAT IS CORRECT.>>THAT IS CORRECT.
>>CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THE>>CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THE
ORIGIN OF YOUR AIRPLANE. ORIGIN OF YOUR AIRPLANE.
>>THIS PARTICULAR AIRPLANE WAS>>THIS PARTICULAR AIRPLANE WAS
BUILT IN 1945. BUILT IN 1945.
IT FLEW OFF THE USS VILLA GULF, IT FLEW OFF THE USS VILLA GULF,
WHICH WAS A SMALL AIRCRAFT WHICH WAS A SMALL AIRCRAFT
CARRIER IN THE PACIFIC. CARRIER IN THE PACIFIC.
THIS ONE ACTUALLY SAW ACTION IN THIS ONE ACTUALLY SAW ACTION IN
THE WAR IT DROPPED BOMBS IN THE WAR IT DROPPED BOMBS IN
OKINAWA, AND WE LEARNED RECENTLY OKINAWA, AND WE LEARNED RECENTLY
IT WAS SITTING ON THE DECK OF IT WAS SITTING ON THE DECK OF
THE CARRIER NO TOKYO BAY WHEN THE CARRIER NO TOKYO BAY WHEN
THEY SIGNED THE SURRENDER. THEY SIGNED THE SURRENDER.
YOU CAME TO BECOME OWNER, HOW? YOU CAME TO BECOME OWNER, HOW?
>>WELL, ONE NIGHT AT THE FARGO>>WELL, ONE NIGHT AT THE FARGO
AIR MUSEUM, THEY CON CONVINCED I AIR MUSEUM, THEY CON CONVINCED I
SHOULD OWN IT. SHOULD OWN IT.
>>I WON’T ASK WHAT THE OCCASION>>I WON’T ASK WHAT THE OCCASION
WAS. WAS.
(LAUGHING). (LAUGHING).
>>EVERY PILOT I HAVE EVER MET>>EVERY PILOT I HAVE EVER MET
DREAMS OF OWNING A WARBIRD. DREAMS OF OWNING A WARBIRD.
I WASN’T REALLY LOOKING FOR ONE, I WASN’T REALLY LOOKING FOR ONE,
WASN’T REALLY QUALIFIED WASN’T REALLY QUALIFIED
FINANCIALLY OR EXPERIENCE WISE, FINANCIALLY OR EXPERIENCE WISE,
BUT WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY BUT WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY
PRESENTED ITSELF, I HAD TO TRY. PRESENTED ITSELF, I HAD TO TRY.
>>YOU HAVE OWNED IT FOR HOW>>YOU HAVE OWNED IT FOR HOW
LONG? LONG?
>>ABOUT SIX YEARS NOW.>>ABOUT SIX YEARS NOW.
SO LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT THE SO LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT THE
VIDEO OF THE AIRPLANE, AND I VIDEO OF THE AIRPLANE, AND I
WANT TO SHOW THIS VIDEO IN WANT TO SHOW THIS VIDEO IN
PARTICULAR BECAUSE IT WILL SHOW PARTICULAR BECAUSE IT WILL SHOW
YOU THE WINGS OF THIS AIRCRAFT. YOU THE WINGS OF THIS AIRCRAFT.
BECAUSE IT WAS ON AIRCRT BECAUSE IT WAS ON AIRCRT
CARRIER, IT HAD TO HAVE ITS CARRIER, IT HAD TO HAVE ITS
WINGS FOLDED. WINGS FOLDED.
AS YOU CAN SEE THE WINGS ARE AS YOU CAN SEE THE WINGS ARE
FOLDING. FOLDING.
THE AIRPLANE HAS 52 FEET WING THE AIRPLANE HAS 52 FEET WING
SPAN, BUT. SPAN, BUT.
EVEN THE SMALL CARRIERS THEY EVEN THE SMALL CARRIERS THEY
WOULD HAVE UP TO 30 OF THEM ON A WOULD HAVE UP TO 30 OF THEM ON A
CARRIER. CARRIER.
>>YOU MENTIONED IT TOOK OFF –>>YOU MENTIONED IT TOOK OFF —
TAKES OFF AT 500 FEET. TAKES OFF AT 500 FEET.
>>CARRIER THAT ONE FLEW OFF OF>>CARRIER THAT ONE FLEW OFF OF
ONLY HAD 500-FOOT DECK. ONLY HAD 500-FOOT DECK.
SO IT HAD TO GET OFF OF SO IT HAD TO GET OFF OF
500 FEET. 500 FEET.
ALTHOUGH THEY DID HAVE CATAPULTS ALTHOUGH THEY DID HAVE CATAPULTS
IN WORLD WAR II. IN WORLD WAR II.
THIS AIRPLANE WAS EQUIPPED TO BE THIS AIRPLANE WAS EQUIPPED TO BE
CATAPULTED, ALSO. CATAPULTED, ALSO.
>>I FIRST SAW YOUR AIRCRAFT AT>>I FIRST SAW YOUR AIRCRAFT AT
THE EXPERIMENTAL AIRCRAFT THE EXPERIMENTAL AIRCRAFT
ASSOCIATION FLY IN IN OSHKOSH, ASSOCIATION FLY IN IN OSHKOSH,
WISCONSIN, THIS SUMMER. WISCONSIN, THIS SUMMER.
DO YOU FLY TO A LOT OF AIR SHOWS DO YOU FLY TO A LOT OF AIR SHOWS
TO SHOW OFF THE WARBIRD THIS. TO SHOW OFF THE WARBIRD THIS.
>>YES.>>YES.
THE AIRPLANE’S PRIMARY MISSION THE AIRPLANE’S PRIMARY MISSION
NOW IS EDUCATION. NOW IS EDUCATION.
OBVIOUSLY WE ARE NOT DROPPING OBVIOUSLY WE ARE NOT DROPPING
BOMBS ON ANYTHING. BOMBS ON ANYTHING.
SO WE USED EVERY OPPORTUNITY WE SO WE USED EVERY OPPORTUNITY WE
CAN TO FLY TO AIR SHOWS AND MEET CAN TO FLY TO AIR SHOWS AND MEET
THE VETERANS TO SHOW IT TO THE THE VETERANS TO SHOW IT TO THE
YOUNG PEOPLE AND JUST RAISE YOUNG PEOPLE AND JUST RAISE
AWARENESS OF THE PIECE OF AWARENESS OF THE PIECE OF
HISTORY. HISTORY.
>>AND HOW MANY OF THESE ARE>>AND HOW MANY OF THESE ARE
LEFT? LEFT?
>>THERE IS ABOUT A HUNDRED THAT>>THERE IS ABOUT A HUNDRED THAT
EXISTS, BUT ONLY 15 THAT FLY. EXISTS, BUT ONLY 15 THAT FLY.
>>IN THE WORLD?>>IN THE WORLD?
>>IN THE WORLD OF 10,000 BUILT.>>IN THE WORLD OF 10,000 BUILT.
>>WHY HAVE YOU TAKEN IT UPON>>WHY HAVE YOU TAKEN IT UPON
YOUR SHOULDERS TO MAKE SURE YOU YOUR SHOULDERS TO MAKE SURE YOU
HAVE ONE OF THE 15? HAVE ONE OF THE 15?
>>WELL, I GUESS, LIKE I SAID>>WELL, I GUESS, LIKE I SAID
BEFORE, OWNING A WAR BIRD IS BEFORE, OWNING A WAR BIRD IS
EVERY PILOT’S DREAM. EVERY PILOT’S DREAM.
WHAT I DIDN’T FORESEE WAS HOW WHAT I DIDN’T FORESEE WAS HOW
QUICKLY IT WOULD CHANGE FROM QUICKLY IT WOULD CHANGE FROM
BRAD’S BIG POWERFUL TOY TO BRAD’S BIG POWERFUL TOY TO
CARETAKERS OF A PIECE OF CARETAKERS OF A PIECE OF
HISTORY. HISTORY.
>>HOW OFTEN ARE YOU GONE FROM>>HOW OFTEN ARE YOU GONE FROM
HOME? HOME?
>>OH, THIS SUMMER WE HAVE BEEN>>OH, THIS SUMMER WE HAVE BEEN
DOING SHOWS, PROBABLY THREE DOING SHOWS, PROBABLY THREE
WEEKENDS A MONTH, AND THEN REST WEEKENDS A MONTH, AND THEN REST
OF THE TIME WE ARE WORKING ON OF THE TIME WE ARE WORKING ON
IT. IT.
>>YOUR WIFE GOES WITH YOU?>>YOUR WIFE GOES WITH YOU?
>>FOR MOST SHOWS, SHE DOES.>>FOR MOST SHOWS, SHE DOES.
SHE VERY MUCH ENJOYS MEETING THE SHE VERY MUCH ENJOYS MEETING THE
VETERANS AND JUST BEING A PART VETERANS AND JUST BEING A PART
OF THE WHOLE THING. OF THE WHOLE THING.
>>WHO WANTS TO KEEP THE AIRPLANE>>WHO WANTS TO KEEP THE AIRPLANE
MORE, YOU OR YOUR WIFE? MORE, YOU OR YOUR WIFE?
>>IT TURNS OUT IT IS HER.>>IT TURNS OUT IT IS HER.
IT TURNS OUT IT IS HER. IT TURNS OUT IT IS HER.
>>WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO UP>>WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO UP
TO THE PERU AIRPORT WHERE THE TO THE PERU AIRPORT WHERE THE
AIRCRAFT IS HOUSED. AIRCRAFT IS HOUSED.
BRAD WAS NICE ENOUGH TO GIVE US BRAD WAS NICE ENOUGH TO GIVE US
A LITTLE BIT OF A WALK AROUND OF A LITTLE BIT OF A WALK AROUND OF
THE AIRPLANE. THE AIRPLANE.
LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
>>AVENGER CAME WITH 42600.>>AVENGER CAME WITH 42600.
2600 CUBIC INCH ENG I. 2600 CUBIC INCH ENG I.
THIS PARTICULAR VERSION MAKES THIS PARTICULAR VERSION MAKES
1900-HORSEPOWER BE AND VERY FUEL 1900-HORSEPOWER BE AND VERY FUEL
THIRSTY. THIRSTY.
BUT VERY POWERFUL. BUT VERY POWERFUL.
NEEDED TO GET AN 18,000-POUND NEEDED TO GET AN 18,000-POUND
AIRPLANE OFF OF 500-FOOT AIRPLANE OFF OF 500-FOOT
CARRIER. CARRIER.
AND IT DID IT. AND IT DID IT.
>>THIS AIRPLANE WAS DESIGNED>>THIS AIRPLANE WAS DESIGNED
PRIMARILY TO CARRY ONE 2,000 PRIMARILY TO CARRY ONE 2,000
PANDORE PE DO, WHICH YOU SEE UP PANDORE PE DO, WHICH YOU SEE UP
IN HERE, A 14-FOOT LONG, IN HERE, A 14-FOOT LONG,
2,000-POUND, HAD ABOUT 2,000-POUND, HAD ABOUT
500 POUNDS OF EXPLOSIVE IN IT 500 POUNDS OF EXPLOSIVE IN IT
THE AIRPLANE COULD CARRY THE AIRPLANE COULD CARRY
2,000 POUNDS OF ORDINANCES, 2,000 POUNDS OF ORDINANCES,
WHETHER IT WAS IN BOMBS, WHETHER IT WAS IN BOMBS,
TORPEDO, OR IN THIS CASE, WE ARE TORPEDO, OR IN THIS CASE, WE ARE
CARRYING 500-POUND BOMB UNDER CARRYING 500-POUND BOMB UNDER
EACH WING. YOU CAN PUT DEPTH EACH WING. YOU CAN PUT DEPTH
CHANGES, OR EXTRA FUEL RANGE. CHANGES, OR EXTRA FUEL RANGE.
OUTBOARD OF THAT, WE HAVE WHAT OUTBOARD OF THAT, WE HAVE WHAT
THEY CALL THE ZERO LAUNCH THEY CALL THE ZERO LAUNCH
ROCKETS, AND THESE ROCKETS WERE ROCKETS, AND THESE ROCKETS WERE
SOLID FUEL ONCE THEY ARE SOLID FUEL ONCE THEY ARE
IGNITED, THEY WERE IGNITED AND IGNITED, THEY WERE IGNITED AND
THEY HAD HARDENED STEEL TIPS, THEY HAD HARDENED STEEL TIPS,
AND THEY PRIMARILY USE THEM FOR AND THEY PRIMARILY USE THEM FOR
PUNCHING HOLES IN SUBMARINES. PUNCHING HOLES IN SUBMARINES.
THIS IS ANOTHER FEATURE THAT WE THIS IS ANOTHER FEATURE THAT WE
HAVE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE TO
HAVE. HAVE.
THIS APS4 FORWARD LOOKING RADAR THIS APS4 FORWARD LOOKING RADAR
UNIT. UNIT.
WE HAVE A PICTURE OF THIS WE HAVE A PICTURE OF THIS
AIRPLANE IN THE WAR CARRYING A AIRPLANE IN THE WAR CARRYING A
UNIT JUST LIKE THIS THAT WAS TO UNIT JUST LIKE THIS THAT WAS TO
FIND SHIPS AT NIGHT OR FIND SHIPS AT NIGHT OR
SUBMARINES SO THEY COULD TORPEDO SUBMARINES SO THEY COULD TORPEDO
OR BOMB THEM. OR BOMB THEM.
WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE WITH THIS WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE WITH THIS
AIRPLANE THAT IT ACTUALLY HAS AIRPLANE THAT IT ACTUALLY HAS
COMBAT HISTORY. COMBAT HISTORY.
I DROP BOMBS ON OAK NOW WITH A I DROP BOMBS ON OAK NOW WITH A
AND HAS A BULLET HOLES IN IT. AND HAS A BULLET HOLES IN IT.
THERE WAS A BULLET HOLE THAT THERE WAS A BULLET HOLE THAT
CAME IN BACK OF THE PILOT AND CAME IN BACK OF THE PILOT AND
ONE IN FRONT OF THE PILOT. ONE IN FRONT OF THE PILOT.
AS PART OF OUR CONTINUED AS PART OF OUR CONTINUED
RESTORATION, WE WERE ABLE TO RESTORATION, WE WERE ABLE TO
LOCATE ORIGINAL BALTERATE. LOCATE ORIGINAL BALTERATE.
TYPICAL OF HOW HARD SOME OF THE TYPICAL OF HOW HARD SOME OF THE
PARTS ARE TO FIND, THIS PARTS ARE TO FIND, THIS
PARTICULAR BALTURATE WAS BURIED PARTICULAR BALTURATE WAS BURIED
IN BARBER’S POINT, HAWAII, IN A IN BARBER’S POINT, HAWAII, IN A
CLEAN UP EFFORT AFTER THE WAR, CLEAN UP EFFORT AFTER THE WAR,
AND WAS EXCAVATING PROBABLY IN AND WAS EXCAVATING PROBABLY IN
THE 90’S. THE 90’S.
SO WHEN WE GOT IT SEVERAL YEARS SO WHEN WE GOT IT SEVERAL YEARS
AGO, IT WAS A BALL OF CORROSION AGO, IT WAS A BALL OF CORROSION
WITH BULLDOZER MARKS, AND A WITH BULLDOZER MARKS, AND A
GREAT GROUP OF GUYS OUT IN IOWA GREAT GROUP OF GUYS OUT IN IOWA
HELPED ME RESTORE IT TO WHERE IT HELPED ME RESTORE IT TO WHERE IT
IS NOW, AND INSTALL IT. IS NOW, AND INSTALL IT.
IT IS ANOTHER GREAT ORIGINAL IT IS ANOTHER GREAT ORIGINAL
PIECE. PIECE.
A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THE TAIL A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THE TAIL
OF THE AIRPLANE HERE, FIRST OFF OF THE AIRPLANE HERE, FIRST OFF
IS TAIL HOOK. IS TAIL HOOK.
THIS PARTICULAR MODEL HAD THIS PARTICULAR MODEL HAD
RETRACTIBLE TAIL HOOK FOR RETRACTIBLE TAIL HOOK FOR
LANDING ON THE CARRIERS, LANDING ON THE CARRIERS,
OBVIOUSLY. OBVIOUSLY.
SOMETHING ELSE BEING MOST WORLD SOMETHING ELSE BEING MOST WORLD
WAR II, THIS ONE INCLUDED, H WAR II, THIS ONE INCLUDED, H
FABRIC CONTROL SURFACES. FABRIC CONTROL SURFACES.
ON ALUMINUM RIBS, BUT IT IS ON ALUMINUM RIBS, BUT IT IS
STRETCHED FABRIC BE AND THEY DID STRETCHED FABRIC BE AND THEY DID
THAT FOR WEIGHT. THAT FOR WEIGHT.
PROBABLY THE MOST REWARDING PROBABLY THE MOST REWARDING
THING ABOUT TAKING THE AVENGER THING ABOUT TAKING THE AVENGER
AROUND IS TALKING TO THE AROUND IS TALKING TO THE
ORIGINAL CREW MEMBERS AND ORIGINAL CREW MEMBERS AND
HEARING THEIR STORIES AND SEEING HEARING THEIR STORIES AND SEEING
THEIR INTERACTIONS WITH IT, THEIR INTERACTIONS WITH IT,
SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN DOING SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN DOING
THIS LAST YEAR IS HAVING THIS LAST YEAR IS HAVING
ORIGINAL TBM CREW MEMBERS SIGN ORIGINAL TBM CREW MEMBERS SIGN
THE INSIDE OF OUR DOOR. THE INSIDE OF OUR DOOR.
WE HAVE GOT A FAIRLY SHORT WE HAVE GOT A FAIRLY SHORT
WINDOW LEFT TO BE ABLE TO TALK WINDOW LEFT TO BE ABLE TO TALK
TO THOSE GUYS. TO THOSE GUYS.
IT IS AN HONOR FOR US TO HAVE IT IS AN HONOR FOR US TO HAVE
THEM SIGN. THEM SIGN.
BRAD, I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BRAD, I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE
BIT MORE ABOUT THE SIGNATURES ON BIT MORE ABOUT THE SIGNATURES ON
THAT DOOR. THAT DOOR.
HOW IMPORTANT IS THAT TO YOU? HOW IMPORTANT IS THAT TO YOU?
>>WELL, IT TURNS OUT THE>>WELL, IT TURNS OUT THE
INTERACTION WITH THE VETERANS IS INTERACTION WITH THE VETERANS IS
BY FAR THE MOST REWARDING PART BY FAR THE MOST REWARDING PART
OF OWNING THE AIRPLANE. OF OWNING THE AIRPLANE.
THEY ALL HAVE SUCH AMAZING THEY ALL HAVE SUCH AMAZING
STORIES AND DID SUCH AMAZING STORIES AND DID SUCH AMAZING
THINGS. THINGS.
YOU NEVER TALK TO ONE THAT JUST YOU NEVER TALK TO ONE THAT JUST
PUT IN THEIR TIME. PUT IN THEIR TIME.
THEY HAVE ALL GOT TREMENDOUS THEY HAVE ALL GOT TREMENDOUS
STORIES AND MANY OF THEM HAVE STORIES AND MANY OF THEM HAVE
NOT EVER EVEN TOLD THEIR STORIES NOT EVER EVEN TOLD THEIR STORIES
TO ANYONE. TO ANYONE.
FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY ARE WY FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY ARE WY
SEE THE AIRPLANE. SEE THE AIRPLANE.
SO THIS LAST YEAR WE HAVE SO THIS LAST YEAR WE HAVE
STARTED HAVING THEM SIGN THE STARTED HAVING THEM SIGN THE
DOOR ANY TIME WE RUN INTO A DOOR ANY TIME WE RUN INTO A
VETERAN, AND THAT’S BEEN VETERAN, AND THAT’S BEEN
REWARDING FOR BOTH OF US. REWARDING FOR BOTH OF US.
>>I NOTICED THE TWO BULLET HOLES>>I NOTICED THE TWO BULLET HOLES
IN THE AIRPLANE. IN THE AIRPLANE.
DOES THAT GIVE YOU A SPECIAL DOES THAT GIVE YOU A SPECIAL
SENSE WHEN YOU ARE FLYING THAT SENSE WHEN YOU ARE FLYING THAT
AIRPLANE, AND YOU KNOW THIS WAS AIRPLANE, AND YOU KNOW THIS WAS
A PLANE THAT WAS SHOT AT AND HIT A PLANE THAT WAS SHOT AT AND HIT
BY ENEMY GUNFIRE? BY ENEMY GUNFIRE?
>>OFTENTIMES WHEN I AM FLYING>>OFTENTIMES WHEN I AM FLYING
ACROSS THE COUNTRY, FOR SHOWS, I ACROSS THE COUNTRY, FOR SHOWS, I
WILL SIT AND THINK OF THE FACT WILL SIT AND THINK OF THE FACT
THAT I AM SITTING IN A PIECE OF THAT I AM SITTING IN A PIECE OF
HISTORY, AND HOW FAR AWAY FROM HISTORY, AND HOW FAR AWAY FROM
THE PACIFIC IT IS HOW MANY YEARS THE PACIFIC IT IS HOW MANY YEARS
AND HOW MANY MILES, AND WHO AND HOW MANY MILES, AND WHO
COULD HAVE FORESEEN GUYS LIKE ME COULD HAVE FORESEEN GUYS LIKE ME
WOULD BE ABLE TO PLAY WITH THESE WOULD BE ABLE TO PLAY WITH THESE
70 YEARS AGO. 70 YEARS AGO.
>>>>
>>FOR ANYONE WHO HAS NOT HEARD A>>FOR ANYONE WHO HAS NOT HEARD A
WARBIRD FLY, IT IS THE SOUND OF WARBIRD FLY, IT IS THE SOUND OF
THE ENGINE AS MUCH AS THE THE ENGINE AS MUCH AS THE
APPEARANCE OF THE AIRPLANE. APPEARANCE OF THE AIRPLANE.
WHEN THOSE 14 CYLINDERS CRANK WHEN THOSE 14 CYLINDERS CRANK
UP, THERE IS A CERTAIN — I MEAN UP, THERE IS A CERTAIN — I MEAN
DO YOU FEEL THAT IN THE COCKPIT? DO YOU FEEL THAT IN THE COCKPIT?
>>I DON’T FEEL IT IN THE>>I DON’T FEEL IT IN THE
COCKPIT QUITE AS MUCH AS YOU DO COCKPIT QUITE AS MUCH AS YOU DO
OUTSIDE OF THE AIRPLANE. OUTSIDE OF THE AIRPLANE.
BUT I VERY SPECIFICALLY REMEMBER BUT I VERY SPECIFICALLY REMEMBER
THE VERY FIRST TIME I SAW THIS THE VERY FIRST TIME I SAW THIS
AIRPLANE FIRE UP AND WHEN I AIRPLANE FIRE UP AND WHEN I
COULD FEEL THE PERCUSSION IN MY COULD FEEL THE PERCUSSION IN MY
CHEST AND FEEL IT ON THE RAMP, CHEST AND FEEL IT ON THE RAMP,
AND IT BROUGHT TEARS TO MY EYES. AND IT BROUGHT TEARS TO MY EYES.
>>YOU DO, AND YOU FEEL IT.>>YOU DO, AND YOU FEEL IT.
>>YES.>>YES.
>>IN ADDITION TO HEAR IT.>>IN ADDITION TO HEAR IT.
>>YES, ABSOLUTELY.>>YES, ABSOLUTELY.
>>SOMETHING ABOUT THOSE 14>>SOMETHING ABOUT THOSE 14
CYLINDERS, THAT JUST SAYS POWER. CYLINDERS, THAT JUST SAYS POWER.
THERE IS A LOT OF POWER THERE. THERE IS A LOT OF POWER THERE.
>>LET’S TURN TO — YOU DON’T OWN>>LET’S TURN TO — YOU DON’T OWN
JUST AN AVENGER. YOU HAVE OTHER JUST AN AVENGER. YOU HAVE OTHER
AIRCRAFT IN YOUR OWNERSHIP. AIRCRAFT IN YOUR OWNERSHIP.
>>YES, THAT WHOLE FLYING HOBBY>>YES, THAT WHOLE FLYING HOBBY
IS KIND OF OBSESSION. IS KIND OF OBSESSION.
I HAVE A36 BONANZA WE USE FOR I HAVE A36 BONANZA WE USE FOR
TRAVEL, AND HELICOPTER LOCATED TRAVEL, AND HELICOPTER LOCATED
AT MY HOUSE, AND ALSO A AT MY HOUSE, AND ALSO A
STEERMAN. STEERMAN.
>>THE STEERMAN, IS THAT>>THE STEERMAN, IS THAT
OBVIOUSLY OPEN COCKPIT? OBVIOUSLY OPEN COCKPIT?
>>UH-HUH.>>UH-HUH.
>>IS THERE A DIFFERENT FEEL FROM>>IS THERE A DIFFERENT FEEL FROM
FLYING THE OTHER AIRCRAFT THAT FLYING THE OTHER AIRCRAFT THAT
ARE CLOSED IN? ARE CLOSED IN?
>>ABSOLUTELY.>>ABSOLUTELY.
ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY.
THE STEERMAN IS A VERY UNIQUE THE STEERMAN IS A VERY UNIQUE
AIRPLANE TO FLY. AIRPLANE TO FLY.
IT IS JUST A LOT OF FUN AND KIND IT IS JUST A LOT OF FUN AND KIND
OF BRINGS BACK THE ROARING 20’S OF BRINGS BACK THE ROARING 20’S
FEEL. FEEL.
(LAUGHING). (LAUGHING).
>>ROARING 20’S FEEL.>>ROARING 20’S FEEL.
>>THAT’S WHAT I PICTURE.>>THAT’S WHAT I PICTURE.
>>AS A MATTER OF FACT, THAT’S>>AS A MATTER OF FACT, THAT’S
APPROPRIATELY STATED BECAUSE APPROPRIATELY STATED BECAUSE
THIS STEERMAN MAN WAS FIRST THIS STEERMAN MAN WAS FIRST
BUILT IN CALIFORNIA IN 1926. BUILT IN CALIFORNIA IN 1926.
>>OKAY.>>OKAY.
>>THAT DIDN’T WORK OUT SO WELL.>>THAT DIDN’T WORK OUT SO WELL.
THEY FORMED THE COMPANY AND THEY FORMED THE COMPANY AND
ESTABLISHED IT IN WICHITA AND ESTABLISHED IT IN WICHITA AND
STARTED BUILDING STEERMEN IN STARTED BUILDING STEERMEN IN
1927 IN WICHITA, THE MOST COMMON 1927 IN WICHITA, THE MOST COMMON
OF WHICH IS THE 75. OF WHICH IS THE 75.
MODEL 75 WHICH YOU WILL SEE MANY MODEL 75 WHICH YOU WILL SEE MANY
OF AT THE GALESBURG NATIONAL OF AT THE GALESBURG NATIONAL
STEERMAN FLY IN. STEERMAN FLY IN.
PHOTOGRAPHER TODD PILAN AND I PHOTOGRAPHER TODD PILAN AND I
HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT TO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT TO
GALESBURG TO SEE THE STEERMAN GALESBURG TO SEE THE STEERMAN
FIRE UP AND FLY IN THE SKIES. FIRE UP AND FLY IN THE SKIES.
HERE IS ONE READY TO TAKE OFF, HERE IS ONE READY TO TAKE OFF,
BRAD. BRAD.
WHAT ARE YOU THINKING WHEN YOU WHAT ARE YOU THINKING WHEN YOU
ARE GOING UP AND READY TO TAKE ARE GOING UP AND READY TO TAKE
OFF? OFF?
>>IN A STEERMAN?>>IN A STEERMAN?
>>YEAH.>>YEAH.
>>I RICH IT HAD BETTER>>I RICH IT HAD BETTER
VISIBILITY. VISIBILITY.
>>YOU ARE IN THE SECOND SEAT>>YOU ARE IN THE SECOND SEAT
BACK. BACK.
>>RIGHT.>>RIGHT.
THE STEERMAN WAS PRIMARY TRAINER THE STEERMAN WAS PRIMARY TRAINER
FOR WORLD WAR II AIRPLANES SUCH FOR WORLD WAR II AIRPLANES SUCH
AS THE AVENGER. AS THE AVENGER.
>>SO YOU ARE IN THE SECOND SEAT>>SO YOU ARE IN THE SECOND SEAT
BACK SO YOU CAN SEE OFF TO ONE BACK SO YOU CAN SEE OFF TO ONE
SIDE OR THE OTHER? SIDE OR THE OTHER?
>>THAT’S CORRECT.>>THAT’S CORRECT.
YOU CAN’T SEE ANYTHING STRAIGHT YOU CAN’T SEE ANYTHING STRAIGHT
AHEAD. AHEAD.
>>AND WHEN YOU ARE UP IN THE A>>AND WHEN YOU ARE UP IN THE A
AIR LIKE THIS, THERE IS A AIR LIKE THIS, THERE IS A
SPECIAL FEEL YOU GET? SPECIAL FEEL YOU GET?
>>YES.>>YES.
ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY.
IT IS JUST A PURE FUN FEEL. IT IS JUST A PURE FUN FEEL.
I AM NOT SURE HOW I WOULD I AM NOT SURE HOW I WOULD
DESCRIBE IT. DESCRIBE IT.
>>IS IT WINDY?>>IS IT WINDY?
>>IT IS WINDY.>>IT IS WINDY.
YOU GET A LITTLE BUFFETED, BEST YOU GET A LITTLE BUFFETED, BEST
TO WEAR GOGGLES. TO WEAR GOGGLES.
>>WELL, NOT ONLY DID WE HAVE A>>WELL, NOT ONLY DID WE HAVE A
CHANCE TO HAVE TODD GO FLYING IN CHANCE TO HAVE TODD GO FLYING IN
A STEERMAN, BUT WE GOT TO A STEERMAN, BUT WE GOT TO
INTERVIEW A COUPLE OF PEOPLE AT INTERVIEW A COUPLE OF PEOPLE AT
THE STEERMAN FLY IN IN THE STEERMAN FLY IN IN
GALESBURG. GALESBURG.
THEY HAD VERY COMPELLING THEY HAD VERY COMPELLING
STORIES. STORIES.
ONE WAS AMERICAN AIRLINES PILOT. ONE WAS AMERICAN AIRLINES PILOT.
FOR A LIVING, HE FLIES A TRIPLE FOR A LIVING, HE FLIES A TRIPLE
7 FOR AMERICAN, BUT WHAT HE 7 FOR AMERICAN, BUT WHAT HE
REALLY LOVES IS BEING UP IN THE REALLY LOVES IS BEING UP IN THE
AIR WITH THE WIND IN HIS FACE. AIR WITH THE WIND IN HIS FACE.
>>THIS IS THE BIGGER ENGINE, THE>>THIS IS THE BIGGER ENGINE, THE
450, BRATLY ENGINE. 450, BRATLY ENGINE.
IT WAS USED AS CROP DUSTER AFTER IT WAS USED AS CROP DUSTER AFTER
THE WAR, WHEN THE LARGER ENGINE THE WAR, WHEN THE LARGER ENGINE
WAS ON AIRPLANE. IT IS AIRPLANE WAS ON AIRPLANE. IT IS AIRPLANE
THAT A LOT OF AIR SHOW PILOTS THAT A LOT OF AIR SHOW PILOTS
BUILT CAREERS IN AFTER THE WAR BUILT CAREERS IN AFTER THE WAR
BECAUSE YOU CAN PUT A WING BECAUSE YOU CAN PUT A WING
WALKER UP ON TOP. WALKER UP ON TOP.
IT IS THRILL TO FLY TO DO IT IS THRILL TO FLY TO DO
AEROBATICS IN. AEROBATICS IN.
IT WAS A WONDERFUL MERIT IT WAS A WONDERFUL MERIT
TRAINER. TRAINER.
THERE IS MYSTIQUE ABOUT IT, THERE IS MYSTIQUE ABOUT IT,
FLYING OPEN COCKPIT IS JUST A FLYING OPEN COCKPIT IS JUST A
LOT OF FUN. MY FATHER FLEW LOT OF FUN. MY FATHER FLEW
STEER MAN’S DURING THE WAR, STEER MAN’S DURING THE WAR,
NTUMULA ISLAND. NTUMULA ISLAND.
I GREW UP KNOWING ABOUT I GREW UP KNOWING ABOUT
STEERMAN’S. STEERMAN’S.
I WENT INTO AVIATION, WHAT I DO I WENT INTO AVIATION, WHAT I DO
FOR A LIVING. FOR A LIVING.
IN ’89 I PURCHASED THIS NOT IN ’89 I PURCHASED THIS NOT
KNOWING ILLINI FATHER FLEW. KNOWING ILLINI FATHER FLEW.
HE HAS A COUPLE FLIGHTS IN THIS HE HAS A COUPLE FLIGHTS IN THIS
LOGBOOK. LOGBOOK.
I DIDN’T KNOW THAT WHEN I I DIDN’T KNOW THAT WHEN I
PURCHASED THE AIRPLANE. PURCHASED THE AIRPLANE.
IT WAS A THRILL TO KNOW THAT IT WAS A THRILL TO KNOW THAT
WHEN I BOUGHT THIS. WHEN I BOUGHT THIS.
I MANAGED TO GET HIM UP IN THE I MANAGED TO GET HIM UP IN THE
ERA COUPLE TIMES BEFORE HE ERA COUPLE TIMES BEFORE HE
PASSED AWAY. PASSED AWAY.
IT IS A PAINFUL DECISION OVER IT IS A PAINFUL DECISION OVER
SEVERAL YEARS TO FINALLY PART SEVERAL YEARS TO FINALLY PART
WITH THE AIRCRAFT, DECIDED TO WITH THE AIRCRAFT, DECIDED TO
SELL IT. SELL IT.
THERE IS R THERE ISN’T ANY ONE THERE IS R THERE ISN’T ANY ONE
REASON. REASON.
THERE IS JUST A CONFLUENCE OF THERE IS JUST A CONFLUENCE OF
EVENTS THAT CAME ABOUT TO HAVE EVENTS THAT CAME ABOUT TO HAVE
ME COME TO THIS DECISION. ME COME TO THIS DECISION.
I HAVE HAD A LIFETIME OF I HAVE HAD A LIFETIME OF
WONDERFUL MEMORIES OF THIS WONDERFUL MEMORIES OF THIS
AIRCRAFT. I HAVE DONE THINGS I AIRCRAFT. I HAVE DONE THINGS I
NEVER IMAGINED I WOULD GET TO NEVER IMAGINED I WOULD GET TO
DO, FORMATION FLYING AND DO, FORMATION FLYING AND
AEROBATICS AND GIVING RIDES TO AEROBATICS AND GIVING RIDES TO
VETERANS AND JUST ONE EXPERIENCE VETERANS AND JUST ONE EXPERIENCE
AFTER ANOTHER. AFTER ANOTHER.
I HAVE TOUCHED A FEW LIVES. I HAVE TOUCHED A FEW LIVES.
>>I HAVE HAD A LIFETIME OF>>I HAVE HAD A LIFETIME OF
MEMORIES WITH THE AIRPLANE. MEMORIES WITH THE AIRPLANE.
SO I HAVE DONE A LOT OF THE SO I HAVE DONE A LOT OF THE
THINGS I HAVE WANTED TO WITH THE THINGS I HAVE WANTED TO WITH THE
AIRCRAFT. AIRCRAFT.
BUT MY WIFE AND I ARE READY TO BUT MY WIFE AND I ARE READY TO
MOVE ONTO TRY OTHER THINGS IN MOVE ONTO TRY OTHER THINGS IN
LIFE. LIFE.
THIS AIRCRAFT HAS DOMINATED OUR THIS AIRCRAFT HAS DOMINATED OUR
LIFE FOR 25 YEARS AND HAS LIFE FOR 25 YEARS AND HAS
INFLUENCED A LOT OF THE INFLUENCED A LOT OF THE
DECISIONS WE MADE. DECISIONS WE MADE.
WELL, WE ARE READY TO MOVE ON WELL, WE ARE READY TO MOVE ON
AND DO OTHER THINGS IN LIFE, AND DO OTHER THINGS IN LIFE,
TOO. TOO.
IT WILL BE BITTERSWEET. IT WILL BE BITTERSWEET.
MY HOPE IS SOMEONE ELSE WITH A MY HOPE IS SOMEONE ELSE WITH A
LOT OF ENTHUSIASM AND EXCITEMENT LOT OF ENTHUSIASM AND EXCITEMENT
ABOUT AVIATION WILL BUY IT AND ABOUT AVIATION WILL BUY IT AND
HAVE AS MUCH FUN AS I FLY IT. HAVE AS MUCH FUN AS I FLY IT.
>>YOU MENTIONED YOU FLY IT.>>YOU MENTIONED YOU FLY IT.
WHERE DO YOU TAKE THE STEERMAN. WHERE DO YOU TAKE THE STEERMAN.
>>THE STEERMANNY JUST PURCHASED>>THE STEERMANNY JUST PURCHASED
LITTLE LESS THAN A YEAR AGO. LITTLE LESS THAN A YEAR AGO.
WE ARE MOSTLY DOING SOME REPAIRS WE ARE MOSTLY DOING SOME REPAIRS
TO IT AND I HAVEN’T FLOWN IT TO IT AND I HAVEN’T FLOWN IT
VERY MUCH AT ALL. VERY MUCH AT ALL.
>>WHEN IT IS RESTORED, HOW OLD>>WHEN IT IS RESTORED, HOW OLD
IS THE PERSON WHO IS RESTORING IS THE PERSON WHO IS RESTORING
IT? IT?
>>WELL , ACTUALLY WE ARE MOSTLY>>WELL , ACTUALLY WE ARE MOSTLY
DOING THAT. DOING THAT.
SO 40’S, 50’S. SO 40’S, 50’S.
WE DON’T HAVE ANY ELDERLY PEOPLE WE DON’T HAVE ANY ELDERLY PEOPLE
WORKING ON IT. WORKING ON IT.
>>BUT YOU DON’T HAVE VERY YOUNG>>BUT YOU DON’T HAVE VERY YOUNG
PEOPLE WORKING ON IT EITHER. PEOPLE WORKING ON IT EITHER.
>>NO, WE REALLY DON’T.>>NO, WE REALLY DON’T.
>>THERE HAPPENS TO BE A YOUNG>>THERE HAPPENS TO BE A YOUNG
PERSON WORKING ON STEERMAN, AND PERSON WORKING ON STEERMAN, AND
HE WAS AT THE GALESBURG FLY IN HE WAS AT THE GALESBURG FLY IN
AS WELL. AS WELL.
HE AND HIS FATHER RESTORE HE AND HIS FATHER RESTORE
STEERMEN, BUT THE YOUNGER ONE STEERMEN, BUT THE YOUNGER ONE
ACTUALLY MAKES HIS LIVING ACTUALLY MAKES HIS LIVING
RESTORING THESE AIRCRAFT. RESTORING THESE AIRCRAFT.
LET’S HEAR THEIR STORY. LET’S HEAR THEIR STORY.
>>THE POWER PLANT ON THIS>>THE POWER PLANT ON THIS
PARTICULAR AIRPLANE IS WHAT WHAT PARTICULAR AIRPLANE IS WHAT WHAT
IT LEFT THE FACTORY WITH IN ’42 IT LEFT THE FACTORY WITH IN ’42
TO CON TEN INTAL A6 ENGINE TO CON TEN INTAL A6 ENGINE
PRODUCES 220-HORSEPOWER WE PRODUCES 220-HORSEPOWER WE
CRUISE, AT 220. CRUISE, AT 220.
EVERY ONE OF THESE PLANES HAS A EVERY ONE OF THESE PLANES HAS A
HISTORY. HISTORY.
SOME MORE UNIQUE THAN OTHERS, SOME MORE UNIQUE THAN OTHERS,
BUT THEY ARE ALL GOT THIS BUT THEY ARE ALL GOT THIS
WONDERFUL STORY, WORLD WAR II WONDERFUL STORY, WORLD WAR II
TRAINERS, THEY WERE USED BY THE TRAINERS, THEY WERE USED BY THE
ARMY AIR CORPS AND U.S. NAVY. ARMY AIR CORPS AND U.S. NAVY.
THIS PARTICULAR AIRCRAFT, WE THIS PARTICULAR AIRCRAFT, WE
SENT OFF, MY SON DID, TO THE SENT OFF, MY SON DID, TO THE
SMITHSONIAN, AND TO THE AIR SMITHSONIAN, AND TO THE AIR
FORCE. FORCE.
THEY KEEP THESE RECORD CARDS OF THEY KEEP THESE RECORD CARDS OF
HISTORY IN THEIR ARCHIVES ON HISTORY IN THEIR ARCHIVES ON
MICRO FISCHE. MICRO FISCHE.
FEW WEEKS LATER WE GOT LETTERS FEW WEEKS LATER WE GOT LETTERS
BACK FROM BOTH INSTITUTIONS BACK FROM BOTH INSTITUTIONS
TELLING US THIS AIRCRAFT AVENG TELLING US THIS AIRCRAFT AVENG
AVENGER, FROM SWEETWATER TEXAS, AVENGER, FROM SWEETWATER TEXAS,
AIR FORCE SERVICE PROVIDERS. IT AIR FORCE SERVICE PROVIDERS. IT
IS ONLY WASP TRAINER RESTORED IS ONLY WASP TRAINER RESTORED
BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL HOW IT WAS BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL HOW IT WAS
AT AVENGER FIELD. AT AVENGER FIELD.
IT WAS WELL THOUGHT OUT DESIGNED IT WAS WELL THOUGHT OUT DESIGNED
AIRCRAFT. AIRCRAFT.
IT HAS ITS CHALLENGES LIKE ANY IT HAS ITS CHALLENGES LIKE ANY
OLD AIRCRAFT, OR ANY OLD PIECE OLD AIRCRAFT, OR ANY OLD PIECE
OF MACHINERY. OF MACHINERY.
I ENJOY THE HISTORY. I ENJOY THE HISTORY.
THESE THINGS ARE FLYING NATIONAL THESE THINGS ARE FLYING NATIONAL
MONUMENTS, THEY STAND THROUGH MONUMENTS, THEY STAND THROUGH
ALL TIME BE AND TRAIN THE NATION ALL TIME BE AND TRAIN THE NATION
TO FLY FOR THE WAR. TO FLY FOR THE WAR.
>>ALL THE WORK ON THIS AIRCRAFT>>ALL THE WORK ON THIS AIRCRAFT
IS DONE BY MY SON P I HELP HERE IS DONE BY MY SON P I HELP HERE
AND THERE WHERE I CAN. AND THERE WHERE I CAN.
>>IT IS DEFINITELY A DYING ART>>IT IS DEFINITELY A DYING ART
BEING ABLE TO REBUILD THESE BEING ABLE TO REBUILD THESE
AIRPLANES AND FLY THEM AIRPLANES AND FLY THEM
PROFICIENTLY. PROFICIENTLY.
THAT’S DEFINITELY SOMETHING I AM THAT’S DEFINITELY SOMETHING I AM
SEEING. SEEING.
I ONLY KNOW THREE OR FOUR OTHER I ONLY KNOW THREE OR FOUR OTHER
PEOPLE IN MY AGE BRACKET DOING PEOPLE IN MY AGE BRACKET DOING
THIS. THIS.
>>I WANT TO THANK BOB HARRISON>>I WANT TO THANK BOB HARRISON
WHO IS THE — ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO IS THE — ONE OF THE PEOPLE
WHO DIRECTS THAT FLY IN IN WHO DIRECTS THAT FLY IN IN
GALESBURG FOR ARRANGING FOR GALESBURG FOR ARRANGING FOR
THOSE INTERVIEWS. THOSE INTERVIEWS.
WE HEARD THE YOUNGER ONE OF THE WE HEARD THE YOUNGER ONE OF THE
PORTERS SAY THAT HE SAYS IT IS A PORTERS SAY THAT HE SAYS IT IS A
FLYING TRIBUTE TO THE MILITARY. FLYING TRIBUTE TO THE MILITARY.
IT IS A MONUMENT. IT IS A MONUMENT.
>>ABSOLUTELY.>>ABSOLUTELY.
>>IS IT IMPORTANT FOR YOU — ARE>>IS IT IMPORTANT FOR YOU — ARE
YOU MAINTAINING A BIT OF HISTORY YOU MAINTAINING A BIT OF HISTORY
FOR US? FOR US?
>>YES, AS I SAID EARLIER,>>YES, AS I SAID EARLIER,
CARETAKERS THE PIECE OF HISTORY CARETAKERS THE PIECE OF HISTORY
IS REALLY THE ROLE WE HAVE TAKEN IS REALLY THE ROLE WE HAVE TAKEN
UP. UP.
IT IS NOT JUST ME. IT IS NOT JUST ME.
I HAVE A COMMITTED GROUP OF I HAVE A COMMITTED GROUP OF
VOLUNTEERS THAT WORK ON PLANE VOLUNTEERS THAT WORK ON PLANE
NEARLY EVERY DAY. NEARLY EVERY DAY.
FOR ALL OF US, IT IS A FOR ALL OF US, IT IS A
COMMITMENT TO THE PIECE OF COMMITMENT TO THE PIECE OF
HISTORY. HISTORY.
>>HOW DO YOU LOOK AT THE FUTURE>>HOW DO YOU LOOK AT THE FUTURE
OF WAR BIRDS? OF WAR BIRDS?
>>WARBIRDS, THEY HAVE SURVIVED>>WARBIRDS, THEY HAVE SURVIVED
AND THRIVED THROUGH SEVERAL AND THRIVED THROUGH SEVERAL
GENERATIONS ALREADY. I LOOK FOR GENERATIONS ALREADY. I LOOK FOR
THE FUTURE OF WARBIRDS TO BE THE FUTURE OF WARBIRDS TO BE
VERY BRIGHT AS LONG AS WE CAN VERY BRIGHT AS LONG AS WE CAN
CONTINUE TO GET THE HUNDRED LOW CONTINUE TO GET THE HUNDRED LOW
LEAD FUEL THAT THEY REQUIRE, AND LEAD FUEL THAT THEY REQUIRE, AND
AS LONG AS THERE IS PEOPLE LIKE AS LONG AS THERE IS PEOPLE LIKE
MYSELF AND OTHERS WHO ARE WILLIT MYSELF AND OTHERS WHO ARE WILLIT
TAKES TO PUT THEM IN THE AIR. TAKES TO PUT THEM IN THE AIR.
>>WHEN YOU SAY ONE HUNDRED, THE>>WHEN YOU SAY ONE HUNDRED, THE
OCTANE LEVEL. OCTANE LEVEL.
ONE HUNDRED OCTANE LEADED FUEL. ONE HUNDRED OCTANE LEADED FUEL.
>>IS THAT DIFFICULT TO FIND?>>IS THAT DIFFICULT TO FIND?
>>NOT YET, BUT THE E.P.A. IS>>NOT YET, BUT THE E.P.A. IS
WORKING HARD AGAINST IT! WORKING HARD AGAINST IT!
(LAUGHING). (LAUGHING).
>>YOU CAN’T USE REGULAR — I>>YOU CAN’T USE REGULAR — I
MEAN THAT’S A SPECIAL FUEL JUST MEAN THAT’S A SPECIAL FUEL JUST
FOR THESE KINDS OF PLANES? FOR THESE KINDS OF PLANES?
>>IT IS THE SAME KIND OF FUEL>>IT IS THE SAME KIND OF FUEL
THAT MODERN AIRPLANES USE ALSO, THAT MODERN AIRPLANES USE ALSO,
BUT MODERN AIRPLANES CAN BE BUT MODERN AIRPLANES CAN BE
FAIRLY EASILY CONVERTED FOR FAIRLY EASILY CONVERTED FOR
OTHER TYPES OF FUEL AT LEAST IN OTHER TYPES OF FUEL AT LEAST IN
COMPARISON TO THESE. COMPARISON TO THESE.
AND THERE IS SO FEW OF THEM AND THERE IS SO FEW OF THEM
FLYING THAT NO ONE WILL MARKET A FLYING THAT NO ONE WILL MARKET A
CONVERSION. CONVERSION.
>>SO, WHEN I FIRST LEARNED ABOUT>>SO, WHEN I FIRST LEARNED ABOUT
YOUR PASSION, I WAS AT THE YOUR PASSION, I WAS AT THE
OSHKOSH AIR SHOW, AND SIGN SAID OSHKOSH AIR SHOW, AND SIGN SAID
THAT YOU WERE FROM EUREKA, AND THAT YOU WERE FROM EUREKA, AND
SOMEHOW EUREKA AND AVENGER OWNER SOMEHOW EUREKA AND AVENGER OWNER
AND GENERAL OLD AIRCRAFT OWNER AND GENERAL OLD AIRCRAFT OWNER
DOESN’T MATCH. DOESN’T MATCH.
NO OVER TO EUREKAANS, BUT IN NO OVER TO EUREKAANS, BUT IN
EUREKA ILLINOIS, AND BUYING EUREKA ILLINOIS, AND BUYING
AIRPLANES? AIRPLANES?
>>UNFORTUNATELY, WE LIVE IN>>UNFORTUNATELY, WE LIVE IN
WHAT JANE AND I CALL THE WHAT JANE AND I CALL THE
AVIATION DEAD ZONE HERE IN AVIATION DEAD ZONE HERE IN
CENTRAL ILLINOIS. CENTRAL ILLINOIS.
THERE IS A LOT OF OTHER PLACES THERE IS A LOT OF OTHER PLACES
IN COUNTRY THAT WARBIRDS THRIVE. IN COUNTRY THAT WARBIRDS THRIVE.
THIS JUST DOESN’T HAPPEN TO BE THIS JUST DOESN’T HAPPEN TO BE
ONE OF THOSE AREAS. ONE OF THOSE AREAS.
SO I AM GLAD WE CAN HAVE ONE SO I AM GLAD WE CAN HAVE ONE
HERE AND EXPOSE PEOPLE TO IT. HERE AND EXPOSE PEOPLE TO IT.
>>HOW FAR DO YOU FLY?>>HOW FAR DO YOU FLY?
>>WELL, FRIDAY I WILL BE TAKING>>WELL, FRIDAY I WILL BE TAKING
THAT AIRPLANE TO MEMPHIS FOR AN THAT AIRPLANE TO MEMPHIS FOR AN
AIR SHOW. AIR SHOW.
WEEKEND AFTER THAT, UP TO WEEKEND AFTER THAT, UP TO
ELKHART. ELKHART.
AND THAT’S ABOUT THE LIMIT OF AND THAT’S ABOUT THE LIMIT OF
THE ECONOMICAL RANGE FOR AN AIR THE ECONOMICAL RANGE FOR AN AIR
SHOW TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO SHOW TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO
BRING US. BRING US.
>>IT TAKES WHAT KIND OF FUEL –>>IT TAKES WHAT KIND OF FUEL —
I MEAN HOW MUCH FUEL TO FLY THIS I MEAN HOW MUCH FUEL TO FLY THIS
THING? THING?
>>IN A SLOWED DOWN ECONOMY>>IN A SLOWED DOWN ECONOMY
CRUISE, WE STILL FLIGHT PLAN A CRUISE, WE STILL FLIGHT PLAN A
HUNDRED GALLONS PER HOUR. HUNDRED GALLONS PER HOUR.
ONE HUNDRED GALLONS PER HOUR OF ONE HUNDRED GALLONS PER HOUR OF
FLIGHT TIME? FLIGHT TIME?
>>YES.>>YES.
>>ANOTHER TWO OR THREE GALLONS>>ANOTHER TWO OR THREE GALLONS
OF OIL PER HOUR ON TOP OF THAT. OF OIL PER HOUR ON TOP OF THAT.
THAT’S HOW THEY ARE DESIGNED. THAT’S HOW THEY ARE DESIGNED.
>>SO YOU KEEP IT IN THE MIDWEST?>>SO YOU KEEP IT IN THE MIDWEST?
>>FOR MOST PART, YES!>>FOR MOST PART, YES!
(LAUGHING). (LAUGHING).
>>THE HELICOPTER AND BONANZA ARE>>THE HELICOPTER AND BONANZA ARE
PERSONAL IN NATURE. PERSONAL IN NATURE.
>>THEY ARE.>>THEY ARE.
>>THE STEERMAN, WHEN IT IS>>THE STEERMAN, WHEN IT IS
REBUILT, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO REBUILT, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO
DO WITH IT? DO WITH IT?
>>I HAVE NO IDEA.>>I HAVE NO IDEA.
YOU ARE A IC CONSENT AGENDA TO R YOU ARE A IC CONSENT AGENDA TO R
R R R R R R E — YOU ARE ADDICTED TO OLD
AIRCRAFT. AIRCRAFT.
>>THEY ARE JUST NEAT OLD>>THEY ARE JUST NEAT OLD
AIRPLANES. AIRPLANES.
I APPRECIATE YOUR INSIGHT INTO I APPRECIATE YOUR INSIGHT INTO
AND APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS TO AND APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS TO
PRESERVE A BIT OF HISTORY. PRESERVE A BIT OF HISTORY.
BRAD DECKERT OF EUREKA, BRAD DECKERT OF EUREKA,
ILLINOIS, THANKS FOR THE ILLINOIS, THANKS FOR THE
STORIES. STORIES.
>>THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.>>THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
WE WILL BE BACK NEXT WEEK WITH WE WILL BE BACK NEXT WEEK WITH
ANOTHER EDITION OF “AT ISSUE.” ANOTHER EDITION OF “AT ISSUE.”
PLEASE JOIN US THEN. PLEASE JOIN US THEN.
>>FUNNY HOW THESE AIRPLANES GET>>FUNNY HOW THESE AIRPLANES GET
UNDER YOUR SKIN. YOU BUY THEM. UNDER YOUR SKIN. YOU BUY THEM.
FALL IN LOVE WITH EM THIS. FALL IN LOVE WITH EM THIS.
YOU HAVE WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE YOU HAVE WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE
FLYING THEM BE AND PEOPLE KEEP FLYING THEM BE AND PEOPLE KEEP
THEM FOR A LOT OF YEARS.

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