-And I’m Rens. And welcome in our Drugslab. I really feel happy.
-Let’s throw in another few grams. I don’t really have any emotions. In Drugslab we try drugs
so you don’t have to. If you’re curious about a drug,
let us know and maybe we’ll try it. Jeri Rom did so too.
He was very curious about kratom. This is kratom in powder form. It’s actually the pulverized leaf
of the kratom tree… which is native to Southeast Asia. It makes you energetic and euphoric,
but if you take more, you get sluggish. It has a brown colour, looks a bit like
cocoa and smells… well, herbal. In some parts of Thailand, up to
70% of the men chew kratom daily. It’s related to the coffee plant
and has a somewhat similar effect. It gives you energy to do things, but
kratom also helps with certain ailments… such as diarrhoea or opium addiction. So it doesn’t get seen as a drug,
but as a medicine. The plant gets used
as an alternative for opium. It hasn’t been studied much,
so we can’t rule out that it’s harmful. The active substance in kratom
is mitragyna. That has an effect on the opiate receptors
in your brain… and affects your mood
and anxiety levels. It improves your mood
and makes you euphoric. But I don’t think it makes you so euphoric
that you suddenly get up and start dancing. No, but euphoric enough that you
feel like going out and doing things. I don’t know, but I can’t wait
to find out what it does. Do you want to do it?
-Yes, I’m curious. I’m going to put on the belt.
-Alright. Bastiaan may initially get nauseous or
get a headache, but that won’t last long. Kratom may act as an aphrodisiac
in women… and decrease erection problems in men. You may also get a dry mouth, a reduced
appetite and a more frequent urge to pee. As a kind of baseline measurement,
how do you feel now? I feel pretty good.
I slept well, it’s nice here. Of course.
-So I feel cheerful. I feel the way I always feel.
Like Bastiaan. You can take it in various ways.
You can smoke it or chew on the leaves. But this is pulverized leaf,
so we’re going to make tea… which is also the most common way
of consuming it. A normal dosage is between 3-5 grams,
so we’ll start with 5. Little is known about kratom,
which doesn’t mean it’s free of risks. Don’t combine it
with uppers or downers… as that may lead to trouble with breathing
or to a heightened blood pressure. And never combine it with MAO inhibitors,
because that can even be lethal. I’m going to add it to warm water. It starts working after 10-20 minutes. And the effects last 3-6 hours,
also depending on how much you take. Now stir.
Wow, it’s really just like sand. Now it’s like mud.
-Please stir it well. Wow, it has a very strong smell. Now it’s just like mud.
-Yes. I can’t swallow that.
-I’m glad I don’t have to take it. It’s dissolved quite well already. It’s one big nasty goo. There you go.
-Cheers. It’s fucking nasty.
-Don’t you like it? Not at all.
-No? What does it taste like?
-Bitter. Very, very, very… You’re not enjoying it, are you?
-No. You know what it tastes like? Like if you
let acetaminophen melt and then drink it. Oh, it’s stuck in my mouth.
-Wash it away with the last bit. You took the kratom 30 minutes ago.
Do you feel different? Yes, very different. I feel very content,
like I’m covered with a warm blanket. I feel this tingling here.
And I have to smile all the time. I really feel happy.
Really cheerful. I slept well and felt rested,
but now I really feel like: I should really do things. So you really notice a big difference?
-Yes. You’re very restless.
You keep moving your legs around. Shall we dance?
-Yes. I can easily go on for two hours.
I really feel genuinely happy. And I keep smiling all the time.
But I do have a very dry mouth. And I’m trembling.
-Oh yes, I see that. You have a dry mouth. Shall we see
what it’s like to eat some chips now? Very dry. I felt hungry before,
but not so much anymore. This is really dry. Kratom suppresses the appetite,
so it makes sense that you’re less hungry. You know what it is? I’m so happy that
I don’t pay attention to anything else. I’m so happy I’m like:
nothing else matters. Has your sight changed as well?
-Yes. It’s a bit fuzzy, but more when I walk
than when I’m sitting. Like when you’re dizzy
and see things fuzzy, like that. But not in an unpleasant way
that I feel I’m about to faint. Kratom affects your muscles,
also your eye muscles. That may cause your sight
to become fuzzy and unfocused. Could you sleep on a couch now?
-No, not at all. I have to keep moving. I could just walk
up to people and start a conversation. Do you understand that those Thai
chew on those leaves all day long? Yes. When they work on the land to pick
those leaves, they’ll be done in no time. They’ll just go, tick, tick, tick. I once drank two Red Bulls
and was bouncing as well. But then I didn’t feel very happy,
only energetic. I feel like I’m talking very fast. Am I?
-You’re pretty talkative. When you take more kratom,
you may get drowsy and sluggish. I wonder if that will also happen to you,
so we’ll just throw in another few grams. I don’t really want to.
I’m enjoying this, you know. But we’re still going to do so. How do you feel now?
-I feel very tired suddenly, very listless. Strange, isn’t it?
-Yes, you’ve completely changed. I hardly feel like talking or moving. You also sound a bit sad.
-No, I’m not. I don’t really have any emotions.
I just feel very tired and sluggish. And I find it very odd,
because just now I was so active. I really felt like moving,
and now I just want to… May I? Go ahead and do your thing.
15 minutes ago you were here… and now you’re lying
knocked out on the desk. Kratom works just like morphine,
so that’s why you feel sluggish and inert. You can’t focus anymore either, I think.
Your eyes are wandering. My arms and legs feel really heavy.
It takes trouble to even talk. Seriously, I feel so sluggish. Don’t do that. Time for some action.
I have a jumping rope here. No, I really don’t feel like it.
I’m not even able to. No, really, I’m just too tired.
-It looks terrible. Oh, I’m so tired. You can also compare it to alcohol. With a light dose you become cheerful,
just as with alcohol. While when you take more,
the narcotic effect takes the upper hand. And that results in Bastiaan
who almost falls asleep on the desk. I’m no use to you anymore.
-It’s over. Yes, the lights are off. This was Drugslab for this week.
If you want to see a drug… or share an experience with a drug,
let us know in the comments. And we’ll see you next week.
-And thumbs up. Exactly.
-Bye. Well, here I am, well-rested again.
Yesterday I was really tired. After the show I slept for two hours, when
I came home I slept for another two hours. And when I woke up I was really
nauseous, so that kind of sucked. At 8.30 PM I went to bed
and I just woke up, it’s around 8 AM now. I slept well and feel pretty good. It was quite a fun experience,
and I’ll see you again next time.